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posted by [personal profile] swmbo at 03:27pm on 21/09/2004
First of all, HAPPY BIRTHDAY to [livejournal.com profile] the_royal_anna !! I hope you have an absolutely fabulous day, from top to bottom, and get spoiled to pieces in your own imaginary bed and breakfast. *HUGS*

And 'limited edition' Crunch bars with Peanut Butter? God, so good.

So I was thinking. Shush. And it created this post. On it's own! I had nothing to do with it! And so the first half is me musing, and I politely put it behind cut tags cause I've already taken up tons of flists today. And the second half is just convos/meetings/discussions at work today and some people like 'em and some don't. I, however, am recording them for my own posterity. That's POSTERITY, not posterior, KOVSKY. *grumbles*


Anyway, [livejournal.com profile] fitofpique was spinning me up to new heights of excitement with all of her squeeing with joy about Lost airing tomorrow.



And it's gotten me thinking about the relationship between fandom and my own appreciation of shows. First of all, I realized I've watched, sometimes in a half-guilty way, a lot more cheesy shows than I ever remembered. I have a real weakness.

A lot of people are like, what can replace Jossverse. And my simple answer to that is - probably nothing. I can't imagine anything working for me as well on multiple levels.

Having said that, I watched most of Buffy and Angel in what I would think of as relative fandom isolation. I watched the first two years of Buffy with friends, before I moved to KC. And then there were people ABOUT until I moved out, but not people that actively watched with me. Some years there were other people at work who watched and we discussed it casually, the next day, but nothing fannish, more the "did you catch last night's episode". Stumbling into fandom in towards the end of BtVS 7/AtS 4 was a revelation. But Jossverse for me exists very much in isolation in some respects. Fandom has made my experience much richer, but the source itself I love with or without the additions. Reviews, screencaps, icons, fic, discussions - I love them, I am grateful for them, and I treasure them and the friendships they've lead to on LJ. But even if I had nothing but the DVDs, I would be able to watch them without outside interaction and appreciate them completely.

But other than Jossverse, the relationship between me and other viewers is much more important to the show. In a purely real life version - I used to watch Friends - I stared watching with my roommies in college, and kept it up as I moved and switched roommates. But when I finally bought my house and started living alone, I stopped, completely. Didn't finish watching the season I was on, and didn't watch a single episode of the last season of the show. And I hadn't even realized I wasn't that interested in or was bored by the show. But all my enthusiasm was apparently for the interaction between me and my roommates, the bit of production about it, the discussions, the activity. I don't know at what point that actually happened, but by the end, the interactive experience was the real benefit, the only thing that actually was important to me.

And now I'm looking at other shows and - Lost is coming up, and I was tentatively enthusiastic when I first heard about it. Plane crash/stranded on a desert island - that's something that I've always liked in fiction, man versus elements, working together... Then I found out that there was a supernatural element added to the show and I was VERY pleased at the notion, because really, add in the unknown and it makes me happy and it's the one sure thing that will at least get me to watch the pilot - fantasy or science fiction.

So I was looking forward to it, but in a mild way, originally. But talking about it in my (and other people's) LJs has actually raised those slight feelings up to a feverpitch of excitement - I'm really looking forward to the show now. To the point that it'd have to be extraordinarily bad for me not to enjoy it in some ways. Which, I've seen enough of the pilot to think that it won't...but I don't think I would have had nearly this strong of a reaction on my own. Fandom, in general, has made me look at shows in a different way. Paying attention to who is writing for a show, that's a big one. Looking at actual names beyond the "from the creators of" which is usually referring to producers and has no bearing on the excellence of a show, as a thousand failed and boring sitcoms can attest.

But also, it goes beyond that, beyond appreciation of what I'm going to be seeing on screen. Reading the interpretations of other fans, seeing their perspectives on characters that I might not immediately get. Even, in the case of guilty-pleasure TV, enjoying the mutual and enthusiastic mocking. Watching Summerland over the past few months was primarily entertaining because of the "OMG, this is so bad, why can't I stop watching" communications I had with [livejournal.com profile] annakovsky and [livejournal.com profile] bear. Me enthusiastically giving them my interpretation of the show until they were looking for the interactions. That communication with them is what really brought me back to the show, because the show itself was fairly cheesy and lame and had only glimpses of relationships that made me twitch with joy.

And then there's Smallville, which I only started getting into at all because of the influence of fans, fanfic, fandom, squeeing...you name it. Dedicated efforts by Vi to make me feel it. And then I duplicated her efforts and seduced Arrie into it. So excellent, the way it cycles like that. But that's a show where it's fandom first, in so many ways. Without a very strong fandom culture out there, I wouldn't have given it a second chance. And lets face it, the subtext in that show is obvious to just about ANYBODY. But it's the enthusiasm for that subtext, and the people who write texts that bring it out, that play out the myth in other ways, that's what really gets me going. And people that are willing to listen to me rant and fume when things don't make sense, because your indulgence support just warms the cockles of my heart. Even when you laugh at me and shake your head and say "You are so cute when you're all filled with indignation!" Yes, I'm looking at you, Vi.

The OC - I wouldn't have even heard of it, much less watched, without fandom influence. And even while I never actively looked at it from a fannish perspective, there was a huge influence. Even when I end up mentally rooting for Luke/Ryan in a sea of Seth/Ryan shippers. Hee. But seriously, it was the enthusiasm of my flist that got me into that, even without a high amount of people on my list who do anything with it in fic, or reviews or anything other than just - affection.

Even beyond that - I like Babylon 5. I enjoy it a tremendous amount. But it had a slow start, and it was the encouragement of people on my flist to keep with it that made me continue past the first DVD. And I think, ultimately, that it's their continued enthusiasm that is fueling mine, the fact that ten years after it's ended, they still love the show enough to discuss it in detail. And when I write my own reviews/recaps/reports/impressions of an episode - it's the fact that I am communicating it out to somebody else that helps me care more. I'm not feeling like I'm watching it in isolation, even if I am the only one sitting in my living room that evening.




And this turned into a kind of love letter to fandom. I had specific points I wanted to make, about the different kinds of interaction I've had with shows and other viewers in the past and I made some of them but others have slipped my mind because instead I've just been overcome with more excitement and happiness.

Because I love people and I love communication and I love the interaction that these shows bring. And I love the fandom that exists on so many levels and I just wanted to thank all of you, those that are here now and have been there in the past and anybody who'll be there in the future. And I really, really hope that Lost lives up to what I want it to be, and that there continues to be shows that do but really, I know that you guys will live up to it. Because you're there if the shows are good or bad or indifferent and that excitement, your enthusiasm, that makes my own appreciation a thousand times richer.

And I kinda like you for that.

But on the other hand, I want to know - shows you've gotten into ONLY because of fandom influence? Would you stick with them if your fannish support went away? Shows you tried to get into because of fandom and failed? Shows that you did NOT want to get into but couldn't help yourself?




Hee! A typical day at work...

Walking back towards my office, I pass the production hallway, where apparently they're filming commercials today. As evidenced by my overhearing... "Ok guys, I'm going to start rolling...for, um, a really long time."

And then we had our departmental meeting. The first part was actually all rehash of the same annoucements we had last week. Well, except for the error report Quality Assurance gives each dept weekly. "We only had one error this week. But they didn't say who made it. So we're gonna say it was Andy." Aww, poor Andy! And Andy? "Hey! Wait...No, that's fair."

But the best part is...our dreaded new office space was discussed. We're definitely moving into the building across the street. And we're not getting our own proofer, which is already inciting rebellion. Because, damn it, we NEED our own proofer! Full time! And running dockets through rain and snow and dead of...day...welll, it's not going to fly. So far our VP says she's rooting for installing those bank chutes to send the dockets. Except we'd be scared of what Print would send back. Those troublemakers. Then Coworker C said 'trained monkey'. And Coworker S "Hey, and we're already getting one of those from RevP!" That being the sister company merging back into us. Aww, love and bonding. Oh, and intern was batted about. Not literally, the notion of getting one with docket-running among his or her duties. We seriously need intern - and actually they are hiring one for some other things, soooo...

But the space is going to be crowded, so crowded. Our department is the only creative department moving over, the rest are mostly technical and numbers people. So we're totally taking over on the whole 'decoration' scheme. And VP claims that if we pitch it well enough, we'll be allowed to have a hand in the decoration. Coworker C wants to build a fort on top of his desk, and then just crawl up there to eat his lunch. Other suggestions are an igloo made out of styrofoam for Coworker N, who is perpetually cold. And swmboss wants us to get hulahoops, string them from the ceiling and then use mosquito netting to make individualized tents over each desk or set of desks. Also reduces computer glare!

And as current VP said - talk to soon-to-be-senior VP and if you have a Plan he will probably approve it. On the list of things that Might Actually Get Approved is drawing a mural on one of the walls and spending a day painting it. I'd like that. I suggested an aquarium, where Bruce Lee can exist in memoriam. *wipes away a tear*. Cross your fingers for the mural!

Also, they are building us desks. As evidenced by an argument that swmboss and VP had about if swmboss KNEW that desks were being built. She insists not, and VP insists:

VP: Remember, H saw them and told you about it?
swmboss: no she didn't
VP: Yes, she did. In the senior management meeting?
swmboss: Oh, right, like I was paying attention in that
Coworker C: Were you smoking crack that day?
swmboss: that day?

You have to love an office where cracksmoking jokes are a running gag, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy and I fit right in. Also, we have established that swmboss 2.0 is NOT allowed to build any of the desks. Because apparently he decided to paint (or varnish) his last desk. And it never dried. Ever. As in, Senior VP gave him a piece of paper last week, swmboss 2.0 put it in on his desk and it's...currently STUCK TO HIS DESK. He originally did the painting/varnishing thing OVER SIX MONTHS AGO. And swmboss 2.0 needs to retype it. *facepalm* And then swmboss was like "And you're not bringing sand into this office, I don't know why you ever thought that was a good idea". Which made those of us who didn't work here yet when swmboss 2.0 was originally members of the department go hey, wait, back up, we need to know...

And swmboss 2.0 explained that when it didn't dry he...brought sand in. To put on the sticky spots. And Coworker B asked "why didnt' you just get a piece of plexiglass?" swmboss 2.0 "Because that would have been the easy way!". *facepalms again* And he is telling us that he has sand everywhere now - in his keyboard and in his phone - that he can't put people on hold anymore because there's sand in the phone and it gets stuck and...

Hee. Working with swmboss 2.0 is going to be *cough* entertaining. In a very scary way.
Mood:: 'enthusiastic' enthusiastic
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posted by [identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com at 02:19pm on 21/09/2004
Awww.

*loves you*

I love how much you love people, and how that's always (well, almost) what's most important to you. Very cool. And now I feel all warm and fuzzy about fandom, too.

And honestly, I wouldn't be into Lotrips if it weren't for fandom, or Harry Potter, or a ton of stuff. Or, I'd be into them, but not to nearly the same extent. The fangirl interaction is what keeps it all going, you know?

Also, look! My computer's working! (It's going SLOW, though, and I'm having to reinstall a ton of stuff, like iTunes. But it works!)
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 02:27pm on 21/09/2004
Ohhh! Working computer! yay yay yay! Seriously, I love you and texting with you is always excellent but emails and lj comments and things where you can type more than 160 characters? ALWAYS wins my vote.

It's very, very rare that people don't win out :p Probably only when they say cracktastic things about Connor, *cough* Hee! *snuggles you*

Ohh, LoTPS! That's the part I didn't even think of. I mean, that's entire fandom that's NOTHING but fandom driven. Even the source of the media comes from different interviews, websites, shows, etc - you really have to have a solid network of people helping you FIND it. The fandom completely outweighs anything else in it. And no joke, I mean, without the other people, the most I would have probably thought was "how cute" and listened to commentaries once or twice, read a few interviews but not sought anything out...

And Harry Potter, I read the books on my own, but yes, I was NOT planning to get involved into fandom. With books it's also such a very different feel, because they only come out every once or two years, it's not the steady dose that you get with a television series, where speculation plays such a large part. Intead it's long downtime, then people devour the books and then long downtime again. But the downtime gives people lots of room to play. And adding the movies in addition skews things yet again.

And seriously, the friendships make me so happy. I mean, the notion that you'll listen to me squee about Summerland until you give in and watch it, but even if you don't...you're fine ignoring the show and just being happy that I'm happy, no matter how cracktastic the source. *loves you*
 
posted by [identity profile] flaming-muse.livejournal.com at 02:22pm on 21/09/2004
I've started watching Smallville (seven eps in so far) and dabbling in reading Potterverse fic because of my friends who are fans and their enthusiastic squeeing. On my own I probably would never have watched the show or read the fanfic; they just didn't suck me in. I'm like you in that I watched BtVS/AtS pretty much on my own apart from mr. muse and some peripheral friends, and it made me a fan all on its own. I think it's going to take a lot for another show/'verse to do the same, without my fandom friends getting me excited because they're excited.

But where are the baby stories?! Don't tell me you've grown tired of the poor child already!
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 02:32pm on 21/09/2004
Yeah, I am leaning on if it's POSSIBLE for me to get that excited about a show on my own again. Not just because there is so much enthusiasm out there that I can relate to very quickly, but also because, I'll admit it, I think there was something extraordinarly special about the Jossverse shows. They drew me in immediately and normally? I find most pilots to be really bad, unable to balance the combination of creating characters that interest people AND a good plot and setting up a premise and...Most of them succeed only in part and it takes a while for the series to ramp up.

I would kill for another show to do the same thing but I am highly skeptical.

Hee! I am TOTALLY not tired of the baby stories! He's the best nephbo EVER EVER EVER!!! He really is. I'm just trying not to kill my flist with stories of his cuteness! I gave his parents a break yesterday but Sunday was ALL about nepbho. ANd hee, I emailed my mom pictures of him and she's just dying of his cuteness and SO SAD she won't be able to come visit until probably november. All she could do was squee over his adorableness. Also, the dog and nephbo are getting along very well! Hurrah!
 
posted by [identity profile] deaver.livejournal.com at 03:10pm on 21/09/2004
Ah the wonders of Fandom. I can honestly admit I would have never read any Harry Potter, or even anything with Dom in it, if it hadn't been for the high volume of squees on my f-list. And I am very grateful for those squees.

I sadly must admit that even though there are many people enthusiastic about Alias, I just can not find the appeal. I have made attempts to watch, but just find it dull. (Maybe it's the fact that I don't like Jennifer Garner AT ALL). But for the most part I truly appreciate all of the discussions, art, stories and fannish hugs that go around for the various shows, it insures that each day there is something new to look forward to.
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 03:14pm on 21/09/2004
Seconded, on the ALias. Although, I have to confess, I'm thinking of giving it a third try, with DVDs through Netflix. Because of the additions to the writing staff in this upcoming season, because I'm now a total slave to the Jossverse writers. Except, I'm not good at picking things up midway and I'd need to sit through all the rest to do so. It's a TOUGH call. Still, for shows that I have only some interest in initially, it really helps a lot if I can overdose and do marathon sessions of the dvds.

Hee, and LotR in general - I was already a fan and went to the first two movies with friends and loved them. But I think the squeeing on the third added huge amounts of richness. Also, I know I wouldn't have bought the non-extended editions of the movies as well as the extended, without flist squeeing.

Wait. I'm not sure if I should be grateful for that. Hee!
 
posted by [identity profile] the-royal-anna.livejournal.com at 03:38pm on 21/09/2004
I hope you have an absolutely fabulous day, from top to bottom, and get spoiled to pieces in your own imaginary bed and breakfast.

::dies laughing, although in a good, birthday-y, non-fatal way::

Hee. I have indeed been treated like a queen in the imaginary B&B. :) And my day has been truly fabulous, thanks to such wonderful messages from friends as dear and lovely as you. Thank you *so* much. ::hands you extra shark cake::
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 03:52pm on 21/09/2004
Hee! Extra shark cake! Huzzah! I'll slip a piece to Henry.

And whew, I was worried for a second I killed you so I'm totally grateful it was in a non-fatal way. And I'm so glad it was superduperterrific!
 
posted by [identity profile] soundingsea.livejournal.com at 03:44pm on 21/09/2004
Well, you all have persuaded me to try Lost.

I hope you get back to Bab5 soon. I really enjoy your enthusiasm, and there is so much good stuff to come (from where I recall you being... Season 3?)

And Alias is really fun. Not perfect by any means, but fun. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 03:55pm on 21/09/2004
Yay yay yay for trying Lost! Now, having SEEN the pilot, I am gonna confess that the first hour of it seemed pretty slow to me. I watched the pilot all in a lump sum, both hours, (well, hour and a half but stupid commercials...) and had it ended halfway through, I would have probably been fairly unimpressed. I don't know if that was the final cut of the pilot or not...

And their only airing half tomorrow...so try to give both halves a shot before you go...and I am gonna do some ranting about it when I watch it tomorrow, in my B5 style. Because I enjoy a good rant.

But I totally am going to get back to B5 soon - my reviews were indeed about Season 3, although I'd actually gotten to S4, and just not watched. Hee, now I want to go back and REWATCH! S3 was magnificent, though, the ending climax.

I'm thinking of going back into Alias, I really am. I initially made the mistake of trying to start midway through, even though I know that never, ever works for me. And I did go back and watch like the first episode and was intrigued enough with it...so maybe if I start at the beginning properly with the DVDs it'll suck me in. We can but hope!
 
posted by [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com at 11:09pm on 21/09/2004
Bring on the season 4 reviews, say I. More B5 discussion!

(And yes, fandom in all its incarnation rocks.)
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 07:33am on 22/09/2004
Hee! Yes! MORE B5!!! I have the disks, I am just finding the TIME! But I will find it, and very very soon...

I am thinking this weekend might actually be an option. Which would astonish me but would be sooo good.
 
posted by [identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com at 06:25pm on 21/09/2004
Your love letter to the fandom was a joy to read. I enjoyed the Jossverse on my own, too, but the fandom makes it so much more fun!

I am thinking of trying out Alias and Lost – without much enthusiasm, but because of my flist. And I haven’t managed to get into HP fandom – even though I love the books and the last movie, I couldn’t master any interest in fanfiction there.
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 06:34pm on 21/09/2004
aww, *hugs*

It seriously does make it much, much more fun.

See, and Lost has moment and I think it could be good. It's going to be character driven - I was a little so-so at times on the pilot - it moves slowly, particularly the first half. But hearing it conceptually, that it is going to be so focused on different characters in each episode, with their pasts and all, that works well for me. And it's going to be very...short term, in a way - the entire first season is going to be about 40 day on the island, meaning each ep will cover just a couple of days. That is something I like. So I have high hopes that are fever high because of people like pique and circe and kovsky and twat who are REALLY excited about it.

I can't get into alias in the past, which makes it different. Same with smallville, although i've gotten into it this summer, which is yet another dynamic!

But HP - I resisted for a good year, but then somebody rec'ed the fics that hit my kinks. And once that happens, i buy into a pairing and i can be lost. Critical, but lost.

Weee! Happy fandom! *hugs*
 
posted by [identity profile] bear.livejournal.com at 06:48pm on 21/09/2004
We seriously need intern - and actually they are hiring one for some other things, soooo...

::perk:: Legal department? Because OMG I could totally stalk you!

Heh. Kidding. Sort of. For I am a joblessanddesperate!bear.
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 06:54pm on 21/09/2004
Hee!

Dude, I totally wish we had a fullfledged legal department that you could be at, because I so wanna be stalked by you. *tacklehugs you*

 
posted by [identity profile] snarkhunter.livejournal.com at 04:57am on 22/09/2004
Nooo! You can't take her away to Kansas! It's too far from PA and then what would I do?
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 07:34am on 22/09/2004
But but but...she's too far from PA NOW!

Wait. The CORRECT answer is - you would also move to Kansas! See? See how simple that is?

Let me know when to pick you up at the airport.
 
posted by [identity profile] snarkhunter.livejournal.com at 11:00am on 22/09/2004
She's only 4 hours away right now. That's not *so* bad!

If you take her away to Kansas, she'll be...way more than 4 hours away!!!

you would also move to Kansas! See? See how simple that is?

::grumble:: I can't move to Kansas. I'm stuck in PA for three more years--one for each letter to add to my name.

::clings to [livejournal.com profile] bear::
 
posted by [identity profile] midnightsjane.livejournal.com at 10:44pm on 21/09/2004
Swmbo,I love what you've said here about the way being part of a fandom can add so much to the pleasure of a particular show. I think it is absolutely true. My first fandom was Star Trek. I watched on my own for years, not really aware of the whole fandom thing. Just had a couple of friends who watched too. It wasn't until Gene Roddenberry came to town to talk that I realized the magnitude of it. We went to see him, thinking that there might be a few hundred people at most there. To my shock, there was a lineup 4 deep all the way around the block. The arena was jammed. That was when I realized that I wasn't the only odd one out there!
The only reason I started watching Buffy was because of my friends who were hooked. It was a revelation to me.
I loved Babylon 5, but it too was something I watched on my own, without much company. I discovered the B5 Lurkers guide on line, and it gave me hours of happy reading, helping to satisfy my need to share my pleasure in the show.
I plan to watch "Lost", mostly because of the enthusiasm from folks on LJ like you. Hope springs eternal; maybe we will find another show to obsess about! Nothing will ever get me like the Jossverse though. Lord of the Rings is close, but Buffy and Angel are always going to have the top spot in my fandom.
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 07:38am on 22/09/2004

The bonding is absolutely marvelous and adds SO much to the show. Particularly those that are a bit borderline for me. Pleasure shared is pleasure quadrupled!

Yay for watching Lost! I am worried and hopeful about how it will be, if we're putting too much pressure on the show, but at the same time, the premise, the actors, the writers - all could be brilliant. I just hope that it does that magical meshing when it all comes together and WORKS.

Nothing will ever get me like the Jossverse though. Lord of the Rings is close, but Buffy and Angel are always going to have the top spot in my fandom.

I echo this. I echo this SO HARD! I am so glad we got as much as we did and I still somehow hope for more...

And I loved Firefly, which gives me faith that I think I could love anything Joss puts his mind too, so I hope he puts another show on the air soon, in any verse. Because part of his talent is finding wonderful writers and actors.
 
posted by [identity profile] vylit.livejournal.com at 10:48pm on 21/09/2004
I think the Jossverse is the only fandom I got into for pure fannish appreciation. In particular, AtS is the only show that I've ever loved so much that I felt the need to share that love with other people in a way that's completely about the show.

SV is different. Yes, I love it. Yes, it makes me squee and freak and I will never deny the big gay love that is Clark/Lex, but it's the fandom, which is so incredibly talented, that's made it for me.

Likewise, I find the HP books rather simplistic in their morality and I don't actually care about actors, not that you'd know that from the hours I spent on the net surfing for more V/O, but that's a fannish thing as well.

AtS is something I can stand back from and say, in all honesty, that I think it was the best damn thing on television, and if you're not watching it, you're missing something incredible.

I think fandom is about energy and connecting and how everyone else's love for the shows makes me love them more. The opinions of people on my f-list have helped me appreciate the show so much more than I did on my own.

Also, it's not my fault. Your ranting's adorable.
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 07:40am on 22/09/2004
You and me both, babe, you and me both.


I think fandom is about energy and connecting and how everyone else's love for the shows makes me love them more. The opinions of people on my f-list have helped me appreciate the show so much more than I did on my own.


Ohh yes. And it feeds me and I feed it and it's just glorious and seriously, I know you're not going to be watching Lost, at least live (were you gonna try to tape or dl the eps or anything?) but I'm feeling so much energy about that!

The fact that with the nephbo I didn't end up watching the last 5 eps of S3 yet means that it's an easier decision for me to even make. I'll just be behind on smallville, with my luck probably til about christmas. Hee.

I cuddle you close!
 
posted by [identity profile] attaining.livejournal.com at 11:44am on 22/09/2004
My little fandom philosopher! There are shows that pull me in despite myself. I told myself TOLD myself that I would never watch Buffy or Angel. Heh. That worked SO well. I did the same thing with Charmed. There are certain shows I only watch because people drag me into them, or people have initially dragged me into them. I'm going to watch Smallville tonight because of all the squeeing for it. There are other shows I just got into a habit of watching to pass the time and now love them. Star Trek: TNG and DS9, Queer Eye, Judging Amy, Law & Order, The Pretender, Charmed, Comedy Central Presents, The Daily Show With Jon Stewart, Mythbusters, Crocodile Hunter, etc.

Shows are fun by themselves, but fandom can bring it to a whole new level. It makes you view the series in new ways.

I'll say it again, your company is so funny.
 
posted by [identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com at 11:48am on 22/09/2004
It's an excellent company!

Hee, it's a good slogan.. "drug, kicking and screaming, into fandom".

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